Rob Rienow on Family: Let the Feature Begin

A couple of years ago we had the privilege of meeting Rob Rienow at the Association of Marriage and Family Ministries conference in Arizona. We enjoyed hearing about Rob's church in Wheaton, Illinois and how countercultural his family ministry model was. As we've stayed in touch since then we've come to appreciate how Rob's approach grew out of his path to starting a family with his wife Amy. Their story is featured in our latest interview series:

What emotional or practical hurdles did you or your wife have to overcome in order start your family?

Even though Amy and I came to Christ at an early age, we never thought to take this big decision to the Lord. We took all the other big decisions of life to Him through prayer, through His Word, and through counsel...but when it came to having kids. We had our plan, and that was that. We had no idea how much we were approaching children with worldly principles rather than Christian principles.

Did Amy have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

Amy is now pregnant with our sixth child. A few days ago, she asked me to get her "lime juice, and pickles." Yikes.

What surprised you most about becoming a parent?

Before we had children, I didn't understand that having children was central to what it means for me to be a Christian. I understand God calls many people to be single. He called me to be married. I now understand that calling to marriage to be a great commission calling...that as we eagerly ask God for children, that we are fulfilling the first commandment to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, as well as the great commission to "make disciples." I was totally surprised how central parenting was to the Christian life.

What’s the most annoying toy or children’s show that parenthood has brought into your life?

Easy. Teletubbies.

How has having children affected your marriage?

Parenting has transformed us. Passing faith and character to our children is our most important ministry and mission. It was not till our oldest son was five that we understood this. Thankfully it was not too late for us. God turned our heart to our kids, then to each other. We are now experiencing what "one flesh" marriage is all about.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

Parenting has revealed all my character problems. I didn't think I used to have problems with anger. The vote is now in...I do! Discipline issues show all my problems. Being a parent and a husband force me to rely on God and ask Him to make me into the kind of man I cannot be on my own.

What have you learned through the highs and lows of starting a family?

I used to think that my "calling" in the world was being a pastor. Now I believe my calling in the world is being a husband, father, and hopefully grandfather, and beyond. Yes, I love serving the Lord as a pastor as well. Before we had children, I didn't see or understand the priority that God places on family relationships, and how he wants our children and grandchildren to take the gospel further than we ever could.

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

When you go to a movie, they show you a bunch of previews. The previews are usually entertaining. But after a while, you start thinking, "when is the movie going to start!" Waiting to have children is like choosing to keep watching the previews and never starting the "feature presentation." Read Psalm 127.

----------------------- Rob Rienow grew up in Connecticut where he came to faith in Christ as a young child. His parents divorced when he was in high school; an experience God used to give him a heart for young people and families going through dark times. He's the founder of the Visionary Parenting Ministry and author of the forthcoming Visionary Parenting (Randall House, July 2009) and God's Grand Vision for the Home, He serves as Marriage and Family Pastor at Wheaton Bible Church. He and Amy have five children and are expecting their sixth.

When Just Friends is Just Poison

BW columnIn this week's Q&A I answer a question from a reader who says her heart is increasingly drawn toward two men who explain that they want to be "just friends." Should she hold out hope, or move on?

Here's a taste of my reply,

My inbox is full this week of letters from women like you wondering how they can hold on to their good friendships with men who've recently let it be known that friendship is all they're looking for. I can understand your desire to still spend time with one or both of these friends because up till now, they've filled an important role in your life. ...

Friendship is great. It can be a strong foundation for a romantic relationship. I even talk in Get Married about how women often overlook men in the "just friends" category as potential husbands. But if a friendship has stopped progressing from "just friends" to something more—especially if that male friend has come right out and said he does not want anything more (read: romantic)—then at that point, the friendship can go from promising to poisoning.

What does it poison? Opportunities for marriage to someone else.

You can read the full question and answer in "The Poison in 'Just Friends.'"

Next Monday: Can you just pray away your sex drive? Stay tuned.

Will Having Kids Make Your Marriage Unhappy?

Last week, numerous headlines appeared in the news implying that couples should stay childless if they want a happy marriage. "Kids Marital Satisfaction Study: Remain Childless" said one headline and "Secret to Marital Bliss? Don't Have Kids" blared another. The headlines were based on a new study by scholars at the University of Denver that was published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The title of the study was "The effect of the transition to parenthood on relationship quality: An eight-year prospective study," but the way news outlets covered it you would think the study was called, "Why Smart Research Types Don't Think You Should Have Kids."  It turns out that those smart research types actually like children and intended to send a very different message than the one reporters trumpeted.

Scott Stanley

Candice and I have had the privilege of getting to know Dr. Scott Stanley, one of the co-authors of the study. As soon as I saw his name appear, I knew something was being misrepresented because of the reputation Scott has as a fair-handed family researcher. Shortly after the articles ran, Scott offered some clarifying comments to recipients of the SmartMarriages email update. Here's his take on the media coverage in his typical dry-wit:

Ah, the joys of the media. Surely, that's just what we meant and we merely came up with the wrong title in our journal article. Couples should not have children. Just don't do it.  Just wait until my sons hear about this. Won't they feel like they owe Nancy and me forever?!

And then he addresses the details of the study:

On a more serious note, here are the important points as far as I'm concerned.

- The study focuses on the way declines in marital functioning happen over time for couples who have children and also for those who do not.  Couples having children showed clear declines in marital quality that were concentrated around the time of childbirth.  Yes, transition to parenthood changes couples, and the changes can be challenging.

- Led by Brian Doss's amazing work on this, part of what we found is that the decline is, on average, small to medium in size.  The effect was not hugely negative as some studies before have found.  On the other hand, the decline is real where some other studies have suggested that this may not be true.

Key take-a-way: Transition to parenthood is a particularly identifiable and challenging period for couples.  (Many of you knew that.)

- Couples who didn't have children also declined over the eight years of the study, but they did so more gradually.  While those not having children didn't show some of the declines in terms of communication and conflict management that those having children did, they declined in overall marital happiness, nevertheless.

He goes on to add:

- Studies like this help make the point that people don't need to just let stuff happen to them; they can make choices, including to preserve and protect the great stuff in their marriages.  But they have to decide to do that and then work at it.  As Howard Markman and Frank Floyd were saying 30 years ago, and we¹re all still saying: Key life transitions are important opportunities for helping couples strengthen their marriages.

- Do these findings argue that couples would be better off just saying "no" to children? Of course not. (Just think of the implications for your Social Security!)  Sure, some couples would do better not to have children. More importantly, there are differences between couples who have children and those who do not (apart from mere fertility issues) that make such assertions and comparisons difficult for researchers to attempt. Brian Doss makes the point that we are wise only to look at the trajectories of the two groups but it would be less wise to directly compare them in making too many conclusions. There are too many bases for differences between couples who have children (and when) and those who do not.

Dr. Stanley wraps up his observations with a philosophical perspective:

I'm just speaking for myself in this point, not my colleagues. I believe that we have a narrow definition of marital happiness in America and that there is something harder to measure that is very important that has been called Family Happiness (by Tolstoy; David Brooks did a cool editorial on this a few years ago). This type of happiness is more deeply related to the meaning of building a family together, in life. Most people do not regret having children.  Most people who had children are very glad that they did.  ... We're too over-focused on romantic happiness in life and not on bigger types of contentment and meaning.  Researchers have not really tried to measure this idea of family happiness but those raising a family can very often relate to this on many levels.

Don't worry, be happy (and content).

For more on this issue of marital satisfaction and having children, we encourage you to read the "Mission" chapter in our Start Your Family book.

From Infertility, to the NICU, to Home: Kelly Stamps on Motherhood

The road to motherhood isn't simply paved with Pottery Barn bedding and Gymboree outfits. For many moms, infertility struggles leave them weary and longing. Others conceive easily, only to discover serious health concerns with their babies. Kelly Stamps experienced both. In the following interview she talks about what it was like and how the hardships changed her.

What emotional or practical hurdles did you and your husband have to overcome to start your family?

Scott and I got married a little later in life; I was 30. We wanted to have some time together first before we started a family to build a foundation of a strong marriage before we added children. We were definetely ready when we started trying for children. Little did we know it would take us almost three more years before we finally had our daughter.  We struggled with infertility and that can be tough on a marriage, but it made us stronger. When we finally became pregnant (by the grace of God with NO medical help—we were on a break from fertility treatments), we were more excited than you could imagine.

Where did you go for advice; what were your sources of encouragement for getting started?

Most of our friends were already married or had children by the time we started trying so we knew what a blessing (and how much work) having a family was.

Did you have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

I wanted Mexican food a lot and I did NOT want sweets.

What surprised you most about becoming a mom?

How much I could love a baby and also how much work it is. But it is so worth every minute. Also, how much nothing else really matters as much as your child once they are here. My priorities changed very quickly.

How has having a baby affected your marriage?

It has made our marriage stronger. Watching Scott take care of Harper, I have fallen in love with him completely all over again. I have seen a whole new side of him as a father.  Because Harper was born sick and we were in the NICU for weeks, I think we bonded together quickly over almost losing our child.  I love him more now than I did before she came.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

It has made it so much stronger. I see the correlation between how much God loves me and how much I love Harper. The fact that He chose to give me a daughter and saved her from being so sick has shown me so strongly my need to trust Him completely.  I have learned to put more and more in His hands.  I need Him now more than ever as I journey through motherhood. When do you find time to blog as a mom?

I blog when I feed Harper or when she naps.  My time is VERY limited now but I enjoy so much the opportunity to blog and I view it as a chance to record her little life.

What role has your blog—and blog readers—played in your journey to parenthood?

In the last two years my blog really has revolved around my journey to be a mother. I shared our struggle with infertility, then the joy of being pregnant, and most of my pregnancy with the blog world; and then, when Harper was in the NICU, we were able to share about that and have readers from all over the world praying for us. I don't know how we would have made it without the kindness and encouragement and prayers of so many blog friends who have never even met us. Now the main topic on my blog is about raising a newborn.

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

You will never feel ready. You will never feel like you have enough money. You will never experience anything greater. You just have to trust God and know that He will provide. And spend a lot of time in prayer that God will bless you with a child and make you the parents He wants you to be—to raise that baby in a godly home. He gives you the strength and wisdom you need to be a parent and He provides for your needs.

----------------------- Kelly Stamps is a mom in Arkansas. After struggling with infertility, she and her husband Scott were blessed with their baby girl, Harper, now a healthy two-month-old. Kelly recently became a stay at home mom after 14 years in the business world. She and Scott have been married for five years. They are very active in their home church. Kelly blogs at www.kellyskornerblog.com.

Twitterview with John Fuller About Starting His Family

Today, we’re interviewing John Fuller @FullerJohn (http://johnfullerblog.com) about starting a family. John is VP of Focus on the Family’s Audio and New Media division. He and his wife Dena have been married 25 years and have 6 children. John Fuller FamilyFormation We’ve always appreciated your experimentation with new media. Thanks for being up for a twitterview.

FullerJohn Glad for the opportunity, this should be fun!

FamilyFormation Let's jump in with the first question. Did you have any hurdles to overcome in order to first start your family?

FullerJohn My wife and I were on the same page, after 2 yrs of marriage. It was time to have kids. We enjoyed our life together. I worked, she stayed at home and had a variety of ministry activities, including some babysitting for friends. We found that there were some physical hurdles, and had a season of infertility. That was hard. After almost 20 months of trying, she finally got pregnant, and our first was born in ’88. We’ve got six kids now!

FamilyFormation Did your wife (or you) have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

FullerJohn Cravings? None for me. She craved pickles, lemons and tex-mex!

FamilyFormation What surprised you most about becoming a parent?

FullerJohn We were in our late 20s, and so we had seen other couples having kids. I don’t think there were too many real surprises... ...though the biggest change was having no more spontaneity in life. A child made us get into more routines. That was the start of a dying to self that every parent has to face. Still a struggle. Its all good, tho!

FamilyFormation What's the most annoying toy or children's show/video that parenthood brought into your life?

FullerJohn I really dislike Barney. We’ve intro'd our kids to classic TV we watched – Bugs Bunny, Andy Griffith, that kind of thing.

FamilyFormation How has having children affected your marriage?

FullerJohn Heh - HUGE impact! Strengthened our marriage – we stand united in facing various parenting challenges. Big thing we face, with 5 kids still at home is having quality time together. Heart intimacy really requires time.

FamilyFormation How has having children affected your relationship with God?

FullerJohn Our kids have challenged us – to pray more. That actually brings us closer together as a couple. ...Find myself asking God to help me be consistent in my walk and talk. Not so easy with 10 eyes watching my every step!

FamilyFormation What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

FullerJohn Don’t wait until you can afford kids – I still cannot afford mine! God will provide. He likes kids! And... ...Surround yourself with good mentors. We learned from several other couples, and their help was invaluable. Also... Get educated about kids, their stages, their needs, your role as a parent, discipline techniques. http://bit.ly/4lvePv

FamilyFormation This is great, encouraging stuff. Thanks so much for the twitterview. Hope you and your family enjoy the snow this weekend.

FullerJohn Thanks, it has been fun. I hope we’ll hear from someone who found this helpful.

 

Tim Challies' Path to Family

We've had the privilege of getting to know Tim Challies through his blog, Challies.com, and most recently, through his interview with The Boundless Show podcast. Now we're glad for the opportunity to get to hear from him and his wife, Aileen.

What emotional or practical hurdles (if any) did you or your spouse have to overcome in order start your family?

We never had any doubt that we wanted to have children. The only questions in our minds was how long we would wait after getting married and how many children we would have. Aileen comes from a family of two children, Tim from a family of five. Hence anything more than two seemed like a lot to Aileen while anything less than five seemed small to Tim.

Our initial plan was to wait several years after marriage before actually trying to get pregnant. As it happens, we didn’t quite make it through the first year before we decided that the time was right. There may have been part of us that was anxious to spend the early years of our marriage working, building up some bank accounts, and otherwise enjoying each other. But we soon realized that we were so poor that we would have no money to do any great vacations or buy a house in the near future. So instead we decided to front-load our relationship in the hope that when we’re older we’d have time to do a few of those things together. We think we made the right decision.

Did your wife (or you) have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

Aileen experienced the occasional craving for Big Macs or chocolate. But she did not have the kind of cravings people may think of with pregnant women. No ice cream and pickles at any rate. Tim was entirely free of cravings.

What surprised you most about becoming a parent?

I suppose we were concerned, as many parents are, that introducing another person into our family would somehow divide our love for one another. And with subsequent pregnancies we may have worried that another child would divide our love more ways still. But we have found that love multiplies rather than divides.

Aileen’s biggest surprise was how much love you have for your child, from the moment that child is conceivedthe strength of the love a parent has for a child, even though you have never met.

What’s the most annoying toy or children’s show/video that parenthood has brought into your life?

We are very deliberate about trying to avoid toys or programs that are obnoxious. When relatives give us such things, it may just happen that the toys mysteriously disappear in the middle of the night.

Aileen votes for Barney! That show came on once and was immediately slapped with a lifetime ban.

How has having children affected your marriage?

I think the better question is how having children has not affected our marriage. I really don’t know that there is any area of our lives that hasn’t been somehow altered by the presence of our children.

Aileen says “I agree. Although I would say that one area of struggle for me, as a mom, is striving to make sure I put my husband first in our day to day living. Especially as a new mom, when a baby is completely dependent on you, it is so difficult to remember to follow the biblical command to put your husband first.”

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

I try to be very deliberate about thinking through what my children do and how I react to this. I learn an awful lot about myself by seeing how my children behave, by seeing what they love, by learning how they love.

Aileen: It has helped me to understand God’s love for me. It is astounding to consider in light of how much I love my children, even in their imperfections, how much more God loves me despite my sin.

What have you learned through the highs and lows of starting a family?

Tim: I have learned why God always refers to us as children. You can learn a lot through your relationship with your children about God’s relationship with you.

Aileen: I have learned a lot about trusting God for everything. I tend to try and take care of everyone by myself, and tend to forget to rely on God for all. Through some of the difficult times in pregnancy, and especially in times when the kids aren’t well, I’ve had to learn to trust God for the outcome.

When do you find time to read as a parent?

I (Tim) am an early-to-bed, early-to-rise kind of person and I have done most of my reading in the early morning hours. I also try to read in the evenings when and if I can. I try to give Aileen time in the evenings to have a bath or otherwise escape from the rest of us for a few minutes and she almost invariably uses this time to read.

Aileen: It is difficult especially when I have little ones demanding my attention, (and little ones that get up at night!) to find time to read. It has been a long season for me where I’ve been in a bit of a desert when it comes to reading time. But, I know and am seeing now, that it is a season. My kids are that much older now, and I’m starting to find time again to read.

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family? Aileen: Make sure your relationship is a priority. It is so easy to forget about each other when you have a baby who is demanding all your attention. For moms, the baby needs you to survive, but in a way, so does your husband. Make sure he is a priority as well.

Tim: Listen to Aileen.

----------------------- Tim Challies blogs at Challies.Com and edits Discerning Reader (www.discerningreader.com), a site dedicated to discerning reviews of books that are of interest to Christians. A self-employed web designer, he lives in the outskirts of Toronto, Ontario with his wife Aileen and their three children ages 9, 6, and 3.

Population Explosion Followed by Population Implosion

A question we frequently hear is, "Why should we add one more person to an already over-crowded planet?"  The conventional wisdom is that so many new babies are being born that population is threatening to explode beyond control. The conventional wisdom is wrong. What demographers worry more about now is the population implosion that is occurring because of two decades worth of efforts to discourage new births. One of those demographers, Phillip Longman, detailed this problem in an editorial for the USA Today this week:

The U.N. projects that world population could begin declining as early 2040. Those worried about global warming and other environmental threats might view this prospect as an unmitigated good. But lost in most discussions of the subject is the rapid population aging that accompanies declining birthrates.

Under what the U.N. considers the most likely scenario, more than half of all remaining growth comes from a 1.2 billion increase in the number of old people, while the worldwide supply of children will begin falling within 15 years. With fewer workers to support each elder, the world economy might have to run just that much faster, and consume that much more resources, or else living standards will fall.

In the USA, where nearly one-fifth of Baby Boomers never had children, the hardship of vanishing retirement savings will be compounded by the strains on both formal and informal care-giving networks caused by the spread of childlessness. A pet will keep you company in old age, but it is unlikely to be of use in helping you navigate the health care system or in keeping predatory reverse mortgage brokers at bay.

We had the privilege of interviewing Longman about this population reversal for The Boundless Show podcast last year. Longman describes himself as a non-religious progressive who worries that the people who share his views are going to lose the issues of the next generation if they don't get serious about having kids who can be ambassadors of their beliefs in the future.

Longman's warning offers fresh confirmation for the observation our government professor made when we were in graduate school--having babies matters.

Advice from a Mom with Rocks in Her Dryer

In part six of our advice series with real parents (as opposed to their stunt doubles or well-paid nannies), we talk with Shannon Lowe, mom of three boys and one girl, wife to her kids' amazing dad and blogger extraordinaire.

What emotional or practical hurdles did you or your husband have to overcome in order start your family?

Our first pregnancy, which was a bit of a surprise, ended in a miscarriage at ten weeks. The magnitude of our grief over that little lost person took us both by surprise, and it made us realize how ready we were to grow our family.  Any hesitations we had seemed very small in comparison.

Where did you go for advice; what were your sources of encouragement for getting started?

I read a lot of parenting books in those early years. But I'll tell you, honestly, that I think the best source of encouragement is finding other parents a season or two ahead of you in life. When I was the mother of babies, I watched and learned from mothers of preschoolers. Now that my oldest is almost 12, I'm paying VERY close attention to my friends with teenagers!  We've been so blessed to have friends who are parenting their kids with grace, humor and good sense, and those friendships have been invaluable.

Did you have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

In my first trimester with my fourth child, it was BLTs--the thicker and greasier, the better. Which is strange, because I could barely bring myself to LOOK at a saltine cracker without losing my lunch. But a BLT loaded with mayonnaise? I could eat eight of them.

What surprised you most about becoming a mom?

It's been a very pleasant surprise to see how much fun it is watching the sibling dynamics develop in our family. It's a wild ride, filled with plenty of sweet moments (and the occasional body-slam).

What's the most annoying children's show that parenthood has brought into your life?

Yo Gabba Gabba. And yet I cannot turn away.

How has having children affected your marriage?

You hear often about how having kids brings such strain into a marriage. It can, surely--it has in ours, at times. But it also brings us closer together, giving us a greater sense of purpose as a couple. And it's harder to imagine a sweeter joy than watching your soulmate as a parent. I remember, one cold December day, when my middle son's pet rat died. My husband went outside in the icy, pelting rain to dig a little grave in the backyard flower bed. I watched (from the warmth of the kitchen!) as he stood out there, shivering, his arm draped over my grieving son's shoulders, conducting a little rat funeral. The thought flickered through my head that I couldn't imagine that I could ever love my husband more than I did at that moment.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

I feel like it's given me the tiniest glimpse into the way He loves me. I look at my children and I see them as they really are--beautiful but flawed, and I totally and completely love them. Not because they're perfect, not because they're doing something nice for me, not for any reason except that they're mine. And that's enough.

What have you learned through the highs and lows of starting a family?

I'm learning again, every day, that the most ordinary moments are usually the sweetest ones. And I'm learning that laughter knits a family together in a really powerful way.

When do you find time to blog as a mom?

Well, my kids are a little older, which makes it easier. I try to do it when their in school or after they're in bed. Honestly, it can be a difficult thing to find a healthy balance when you're a blogger, and you have to be very watchful that it doesn't nudge its way too far into your family life.

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

There likely won't be a moment when you feel perfectly prepared--emotionally or financially. Use wisdom and common sense as you prepare, but know that ultimately, becoming a parent is a giant leap of faith. Like all great leaps, it is scary and exhilarating--and it's COMPLETELY worth it.

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Shannon Lowe blogs at Rocks In My Dryer and The Parenting Post. She's a freelance writer, a grammar geek, and a starter (but never a finisher) of craft projects. She lives in Oklahoma with her husband of 14 years and their four kids (ages 11, 10, 7 and 4).

"Big Mama" Says God's Plan for Babies is Best

"Big Mama" got her popular blog name from her daughter who was praised so much for being a "big girl" that she thought calling her mom "big mama" was the nicest thing she could say. Today, Big Mama is a big-time blogger, attracting hundreds of thousands of readers. We thought you'd enjoy reading about her experience starting a family.  

What emotional or practical hurdles did you and your husband have to overcome to start your family?

We were married for five years before we decided to start a family. I think we both were a little afraid of how becoming parents would change the dynamics of our marriage. We both felt strongly about having some years to ourselves as just a couple before committing to raising a child.

There was also the financial factor, but it’s true what people say, if you wait until you feel like you can afford a child, it may never happen. Eventually, we just took the plunge and God has been faithful. It’s the best thing we’ve ever done.

Where did you go for advice; what were your sources of encouragement for getting started?

We had several older couples that have always been voices of reason and encouragement in our lives. It also helped that we waited so long to start our family because many of our close friends had already started their families and their advice was invaluable.

Did you have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

I absolutely had to start each day with a tall glass of chocolate milk, which is definitely unusual for me. There was also a night that I stopped at the grocery store and came home with a box of a dozen donuts. I won’t tell you how many I ate all by myself, but I’ll tell you that Perry ate two of them and the box was empty. You do the math.

What surprised you most about becoming a mom?

I had no idea how much I could love another human being. From the moment I saw her, I knew that God could give me no greater gift than my daughter.

I was also surprised by how hard it can be to be a mom. I’d watched so many of my friends become mothers and thought I was totally prepared, but I wasn’t. Nothing can prepare you for how much it changes your life.

What is the most annoying toy and/or children's show that parenthood has brought into your life?

Without a doubt, the show “Caillou.” I don’t need TV to teach my child how to whine.

As for toys, I’m pretty sure that Polly Pockets are of the devil. All those tiny little shoes. My vacuum cleaner will never be the same.

How has having children affected your marriage?

I think watching my husband become a father and seeing how much he loves Caroline just makes me love him that much more. I’m able to see a whole other side of him that I didn’t know existed.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

When I think about how much I love my daughter and how I would do anything in the world for her, it blows my mind to think that God loves me more than that. It’s given me a whole new appreciation and understanding of the concept of God as our father.

He truly does want to give us every good gift and I can’t fathom how much it hurts Him to watch us hurt.

When do you find time to blog as a mom?

I don’t want to spend my days chained to the computer and get so busy blogging that I neglect real life. I am guilty of it at times, but I’ve gotten much better about it. These days I either blog while Caroline is at school or late at night after everyone is asleep. I’m a night owl, so it works for me.

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

Really seek God on His timing and plan for your family. Sometimes I think we get a vision of how everything should look and what we think we want and we get fixated on that instead of what He has for us. I always thought I’d have more than one child, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. Trust God for what is best for your marriage and your family.

Having a baby can be hard on a marriage, especially in the beginning, so you need to make sure that you and your husband are ready for that step. Ultimately, the best gift you can give your child is a healthy marriage focused on Christ.

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Big Mama's real name is Melanie and she was born and raised in Houston, Texas. She graduated from Texas A&M University in 1994 and moved to San Antonio, where she began a short-lived career in financial sales. Over the next several years she tried to figure out what she wanted to do with her life. Along the way she met her husband Perry and they spent 10 years leading Campus Life Ministries in their community. They have been married since August of 1997 and true to form for native Texans, still live in Texas. Their daughter, Caroline, was born in August of 2003. Melanie writes daily at thebigmamablog.com. She also contributes regularly to the LifeWay Allaccess blog.

Highs and Lows: an Interview with Todd and Angie Smith

It wasn't until this January that I even knew "Mom Blogs" existed (sounds impossible, I know). Thankfully, my friend Celesta opened my eyes to the fun, witty, winsome and wise Angie Smith, author of Bring the Rain. Within weeks of discovering and devouring her blog, Steve and I had the opportunity to interview Angie, and her husband Todd (of Selah fame), for The Boundless Show. Recently we got to interview them again—this time to get more details about how they started their family. 

What emotional or practical hurdles did you or Todd have to overcome in order to start your family?

Truth? We didn't plan to get pregnant, and I lost our first baby at about 7-8 weeks. Then, we didn't plan to get pregnant and I found out we were having twins. Now that is what I call A SURPRISE. We lived in this tiny apartment and Todd was touring all the time, so we just had to look at each other one night and say, "OK, Lord. This is it … remind us You're in it!!!!" He did, and we survived it (despite almost losing the twins in the pregnancy). We started out going 200 MPH, so we didn't really have a chance to address the emotional and practical hurdles. That would have been nice, actually. :)

Did either of you have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

I craved chocolate and dairy stuff, but I was in the hospital for 10 weeks of my first pregnancy, so I had to settle for unidentifiable meat. The smell of the hospital food tray opening still haunts me … eeww. With Kate, I ate everything that wasn't moving. I have pictures to prove it.

What surprised you most about becoming a mom for the first time?

I wasn't nervous about it, just fascinated by the fact that a love so great could just fall on us. It also surprised me that I was really laid back, because I am pretty Type A. I think that's why God gave me twins! He wanted to make sure I was leaning HARD into Him and not into my own little plans of what life should look like.

What's the most annoying toy that parenthood has brought into your life? I think I was born in the wrong century. I like wooden toys and simple. Amish made furniture. I like plain, handmade dolls and giant cozy quilts with old-fashioned books. That's what I always pictured. But then I bought the irritating alphabet caterpillar so I could bathe. And then the Baby Einstein videos so I could put on clothes and (on a really good day) MAKEUP! You do what you have to, sometimes. I can handle a little annoying music to start to feel human again.

Confession? I did recently take the batteries out of Kate's pink guitar and tell her it was an "imagination-sounds" guitar. She pranced around the house for about a half hour, totally satisfied. Yes, I was born in the wrong century, but I wouldn't want to go back without the assistance of Dora and Boots.

How has having children affected your marriage?

People dream that having children will fix a difficult relationship. NOT A GOOD IDEA. Todd and I were in a great place when the twins came along, but you are sleep-deprived, spit-up-covered, volatile, and hungry as a horse. Self-esteem takes a back seat to survival. There's a lot of stuff they don't tell you about the whole process, which is probably good.

It's a lot of work, no question. And you will cry, laugh, and worship more than you ever have in your life.

But it is ALL worth it.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

I see Him as a Father in a different way. Things I would have thought of as "bothering" Him (I know, that's silly), I now think of my children coming to me about and I feel so grateful they would. I have learned to rely on Him as not just the God who can form planets and make storms rage, but also the tender Lover of my soul Who cries along with me when I have nothing left at the end of the day. He is a Daddy in the sweetest way, and I revel in trusting Him this way, and depending on Him for all of my needs daily.

What have you learned through the highs and lows of starting a family?

The highs are as high as they can be, and the lows are like nothing you have ever felt. I have conceived five babies on this earth, and only held four. Of those four, I only got to keep three. When you start a family, essentially you are giving God permission to reign over the part of your life that is the hardest to relinquish control of. When we do, we find that He celebrates and mourns with us in ways we never experienced before.

He has never left me, I know that. But it would be a lie to say I never felt like He did. It doesn't look like it does on TV, and it doesn't look like your perfect neighbor's life either. I had to get to a point where I said, "Lord, You give and take away, and I worship You in whatever you choose." That doesn't mean I don't question, shout, cry, or have regrets. It means I know where to bring it all, and I do. Whether it is the loss of a child you kissed as they took her into the night, or even just a frustrating day with your toddler, you cannot do it on your own. You weren't meant to. Lay it at His feet and invite Him into the deepest as well as the most mundane. He makes Himself at home in the crevices of your life you may think He wouldn't even care about. He does care, and He wants you to seek Him daily—whether it's in the highs or the lows.

When do you find time to blog?

I have the kind of husband who does laundry, cooks, cleans, and everything else. When he isn't on tour, he is full-time dad, and I get to sneak off and write a little. We have a system that works because of his schedule, but if there is ever a conflict, I defer to him. He is the head of the house, and I am (happy to be) the mommy. He encouraged me to go to Calcutta for two weeks this spring as a Compassion blogger, and he will stay with our three girls by himself. He isn't the slightest bit intimidated by the prospect, because he is as involved as I am in every aspect of their lives. I am so grateful to have the privilege of being his wife.

I probably should have written this last night before we became engaged in some "intense fellowship" that was based on my acting like a spoiled brat (just a reality check for readers who are sketching out an image of me in their heads).

What advice would you give a couple considering starting their family? Seek the Lord.

Laugh when you feel like giving up.

Cry when you need to cry.

Talk about it. All of it.

Enjoy it, because it's gone as fast as it comes.

If you are a woman (and this can be hard to hear and hard to practice!), remember that your husband is still your highest priority beneath God. Love him the way you are called to biblically, and your children will sense the love of the Lord in your home from the moment they are born. It is so easy to put our husbands on the back burner, and it really can affect your marriage (speaking from experience, here).

Never forget that you have been given a gift from God that is lent to you in full assurance that this was part of His divine plan. He chose you. Now you choose Him over and over (and then over again), and you'll be in good shape.

----------------------- Angie and Todd Smith have four daughters. Ellie and Abby are identical twins (6), and Sarah Kate is 3. Their fourth daughter, Audrey Caroline, was diagnosed early in Angie's pregnancy as "non-compatible" with life, and several doctors urged them to terminate the pregnancy. They wanted to leave room for God to perform a miracle, and Angie chronicled her pregnancy (beginning the week of the diagnosis), and still continues to write on her blog Bring the Rain.

The Smiths did receive a miracle, but it wasn't what they had hoped for. They were given 2&1/2 hours on this earth with sweet Audrey, and were able to introduce her to her family and friends before she went to the Lord. She only weighed a bit over 3 pounds, but she had weight in this world, and Angie hopes it will continue to inspire families faced with such difficult decisions, both through the blog and an upcoming book (summer, 2010 by Broadman & Holman publishing).

Angie is humbled to be a part of a story that has touched countless people, and grateful for the little girl that taught her what it was like to fall into the arms of Jesus and find Him right where He promised He would be.

The Benefits of Having Babies Early: An Interview with Kevin DeYoung

Have you noticed how many reasons there are to not start your family? Everything from scary headlines and falling home values to career and travel plans that conspire against the little voice that says maybe this is the the time to have a baby. Is that voice your possible child speaking? If you need some reasons to get started, this is the place. Following is the second in our series of interviews with people we look to as family-formation mentors. This week, pastor and author Kevin DeYoung talks about having kids early. It's soul-shaping, exhausting, and fun.

What surprised you most about becoming a parent?

We were surprised by how tired we got and the time involved. With three kids now (and a fourth on the way) we think, "why did we feel so exhausted with one child?" But there is nothing as dramatic as the transition from zero to one.

Overnight your schedule is no longer your own. We couldn't go on walks whenever we wanted. We couldn't leave the house without thinking it through. Of course, we were also surprised at how immediately you love this new member of the family and how gladly you center your life on him or her for those first few months.

How has having children affected your marriage?

We were only married nine months before Trisha got pregnant, and only 18 months before having children. So it's hard to remember what it was like without children. We have no regrets whatsoever with having children sooner rather than later. There are plenty of frustrating days, but the joy our kids bring more than makes up for them. Of course, having children means less time for just the two of us.  It means that our relationship focuses a lot on taking care of the kids. It means that my wife often feels like a mother before she feels like a wife. But having kids also means we have a house full of laughter.  It means we get to share this massive discipleship project together. It means, on some days, that we need each other for survival.

How has having children affected your relationship with God?

On the negative side, it's harder to set aside ample time for prayer and meditation. Our kids have also been God's means of showing us our impatience and anger. On the positive side, I (Kevin) have learned a lot about the Fatherhood of God in experiencing what it's like to be a father. Trisha has learned about humility and the constant need to die to yourself. We also have been motivated to pray, realizing that we cannot control their lives, nor ensure their physical or spiritual safety. Having children is about giving yourself away every day. What have you learned through the highs and lows of starting a family?

The craziness and frustration of parenting is a struggle, but after the kids are in bed for a half hour, the angst subsides and you wonder why you were so worked up. The highs are manifold: watching the kids play together, wrestling on the floor, teaching them to read, hearing them pray, singing with them.

Did either of you have any unusual cravings during pregnancy?

Trisha gets a hankering for red meat. I (Kevin) really enjoy this aspect of her pregnancy! She suddenly is interested in burgers, hot dogs and other protein-rich man-food. She also has had cravings for sweet tea and chocolate chip cookies (but that may just be part of life).

What’s the most annoying toy or children’s show or video that parenthood has brought into your life?

Bob the Builder is really lame, as are many of the PBS cartoons. But for the most part we only get the kids toys and videos that we also like (now that's some good parenting!). Trisha would like to add that we have no personal animosity toward Bob, Scoop, Muck, or Dizzy. The stories are just pretty uninteresting.

When do you find time to read, blog, and write as a parent?

As a pastor I get to read for my job. The church has given me a four week study leave each year, so that affords wonderful time for reading and writing. I also read once the kids are in bed or when I'm traveling. The bathroom works too. I love to read, so I'm usually reading during even the smallest breaks during the day. Trisha has found it harder to read, but she manages once in awhile before bed.  Trisha and I hardly watch any TV, so when the kids are in bed and the house is clean (which is late at night sometimes) we are either talking or reading together (or I'm at a meeting).

What advice would you give a couple considering starting a family?

While we recognize that every situation is different, in general we are big proponents of starting your family early. Trisha has said, "You may regret the things you lose in the process, but you never regret the children you have." We would say to most couples: don't wait. The transition will get harder as the habits of being without kids get more ingrained. Plus you never know what your health will be or how long the woman will be able to have children (if the couple is able to conceive). Children are a blessing. They sanctify you and can make your marriage stronger every bit as much as, or more than, living five years on your own can do.

----------------------- Kevin DeYoung is the husband of Trisha and Dad of Ian, Jacob and Elizabeth. A graduate of Hope College and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, he co-authored Why We're Not Emergent: By Two Guys Who Should Be and Just Do Something: How to Make a Decision Without Dreams, Visions, Fleeces, Open Doors, Random Bible Verses, Casting Lots, Liver Shivers, Writing in the Sky, etc. Kevin is the senior pastor at University Reformed Church in East Lansing, Mich., across the street from Michigan State University.

Men Should Consider Biological Clock as Well

In Start Your Family, I (Steve) talk about the strong urge Candice felt to have a baby and how I got her to "hit snooze on her biological clock." It's those potent emotions about having children, as well as a broad range of headlines about fertility and the timing of babies, that make us so aware of a woman's biological clock. Increasingly, however, news reports are explaining that men also have a biological clock to keep in mind.

"It wasn't all that long ago that any suggestion that a man had a 'biological clock' like a woman, and should father children sooner rather than later, would have been given short scientific shrift," says a new article by U.S. News and World Report. "Not anymore. Today, a growing body of evidence suggests that as men get older, fertility can and does decline, while the chances of fathering a child with serious birth defects and medical problems increase."

The article sources Dr. Harry Fisch, author of the book The Male Biological Clock with the finding that after age 30, testosterone levels decline about 1 percent per year. Fisch doesn't come out and recommend an ideal age for men to start a family, but where men have a choice in the matter, Fisch suggests "the sooner, the better."

Olasky, Early Discuss Start Your Family

This was a big week for book news.

  • We answered the interview questions that will go live later today on CitizenLink's Friday Five,
  • Listened as Mark Early talked about Start Your Family on the Point Radio, and
  • Read Susan Olasky's review in World Magazine (February 28, Vol. 24, No. 4), and
  • Wrapped up the contest with MckMama.

On Monday we'll be kicking off a special series with couples we look up to as mentors. You'll recognize some of them. Others will be new. Some still have babies, and others, grand babies. It's our hope that through these discussions, you'll be encouraged that regardless of the times we live in, starting your family is still a worthwhile endeavor -- maybe the best thing you can do.

Want to know what the buzz is all about? Get your copy of Start Your Family today.

Consumer Mindset Drives Desire for Designer Babies

Couples often have certain hopes and dreams for what kind of baby they'll have--hopes about the gender, hair color, personality and so forth but now a clinic is trying to cash in on those desires. "A Los Angeles clinic says it will soon help couples select both gender and physical traits in a baby when they undergo a form a fertility treatment, " says an article in today's Wall Street Journal. The headline of the article reminds us just how much this mindset towards babies has grown out of a consumeristic culture. It's titled, "A Baby, Please. Blond, Freckles--Hold the Colic: Laboratory Techniques That Screen for Diseases in Embryos Are Now Being Offered to Create Designer Children."

Any couple that has found themselves intrigued by the opportunity to create a designer baby should at least stop and watch the 1997 movie Gattaca.  Here's a description from Wikipedia:

The movie draws on concerns over reproductive technologies which facilitate eugenics, and the possible consequences of such technological developments for society. It also explores the idea of destiny and the ways in which it can and does govern lives. Characters in Gattaca continually battle both with society and with themselves to find their place in the world and who they are destined to be according to their genes.

Probably the better read is Psalm 139 where we're reminded that every life is already "designer"--because of the care given by an intelligent designer:

For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made