Navigating Long Distance Love

On today's Boundless Show the inbox question is from a woman whose friend has set her up with "the perfect man for her." They've started emailing. But she still has a year left on the mission field before coming back to the States. How should she move forward? But that's not all. Presidential impersonator John Morgan has this to say to "Generation Z":

Fun stuff. I didn't hear the conversation about keeping TV from overtaking the better parts of your life but Ashley's description is intriguing:

I don't have a TV in my apartment for the same reason I don't keep ice cream in the fridge: lack of self-control.

I know that when I'm bored or lonely I gravitate toward things that are easy and will let me shut my brain off. Usually food or television. And that kind of eating or watching leaves me feeling guilty and gross.

You can listen to her solution, along with Steve's insights about how we handle the TV question, and my answer to that inbox question on iTunes or at Boundless.

I'd love to hear from you: do you have a TV in your family room? Do you watch? What are your TV confessions?

When Is a Good Time to Have Kids?

Chelsey emailed us the week before her wedding. She wanted to let us know she'd read Start Your Family, and in her words,

We had been unsure about whether or not we would use birth control. I don't want to take the pill, and honestly, we didn't want to use birth control at all, but we are on a limited, though sufficient, income, and we didn't know if it was 'wise.' Your book, along with the wise counsel of our pastor, was such an encouragement.

Chelsey_christian-2Recently she wrote again with an update. I asked her if she'd write a version for the blog. And graciously, she agreed. Here's what she had to say,

My husband and I got married in April, almost three years to the day after we started dating. I had been 23 for a month; he was 22.

During our pre-marital counseling, our pastor reiterated what we already wanted so desperately to believe: that God is the giver of life and that whatever our best laid plans may be, He was the one who would ultimately determine when our family should start.

We had talked about wanting to have kids right away with our friends and families, but the word was almost always the same, based on our plans for the future: your early twenties is not a good time to have kids; right after marriage is a not a good time to have kids; when you’re in seminary is not a good time to have kids; when you’re on the mission field is not a good time to have kids. We were left wondering—when is a good time to have kids?

We couldn’t answer that, and neither could anyone else. So we decided that we would let God decide when was a good time for us to start having babies. It didn’t take long to find out. His good timing appears to be sometime next February, which means our ten-week-old son will be celebrating our one-year wedding anniversary along with us.

Since God softened our hearts in this area, there have been times of fear and doubting. Did we make the right decision? Is everything going to turn out OK? In response to these anxieties, God has proven to be the God of Psalm 94:18-19: “When I thought, ‘My foot slips,’ your steadfast love, O Lord, held me up. When the cares of my heart are many, your consolations cheer my soul.”

What have God’s consolations been for us? He provided me a job the day after we got back from our honeymoon, which has allowed us to build up our savings account. He has us in a church that values family and children. He recently gave my husband a new, better-paying job that will allow me to stay home with our little one.

I don’t know how many children God will ultimately give us, but whatever His plan, we are truly “tasting and seeing that the Lord is good” in allowing us to start our family when He did.

Congratulations Chelsey and Christian. Thank you for letting us rejoice with you!

You Can Leave Him

The question in Monday's Boundless Answers was possibly the most heartbreaking to land in my inbox. I changed some of the details to protect the author's identity, but the gist of what she said was that the man she loves isn't interested in anything more than uncommitted friendship with her. Even though they're having sex. And even though she conceived a child with him and he asked her to have an abortion. She did. Still she can't seem to leave him. Her situation sounds extreme, and it is. But how many of us have stayed in a relationship that's more harmful than good? What is it about our longing for love and marriage that often finds us putting up with things we never should, while going without what's most important?

In the talk I gave at a singles conference on Saturday, I emphasized how essential it is to have daily time for talking with God, praying, reading the Bible, and listening. It's in those intimate conversations that we grow in relationship with Him. And the stronger that relationship is, the more it will spill over into our relationships with other people. That's never more important than when you're considering a husband.

Growing closer to Jesus is the only thing that will help the woman who wrote me break off this most destructive of relationships—the bond sex creates really is that strong. Part of my response to her in "I Can't Leave Him" says,

I ache for you that you have accepted so many of these lies to your own hurt and the destruction of your child, and that you continue to long for a counterfeit. You are right that this guy will never commit. He hasn't, and without the transforming power of Christ, he won't. (Even an appearance of commitment, without a prior commitment to Christ, will be a cruel illusion.)

My advice to you is heartfelt and urgent: Find a godly church whose pastor preaches from the Bible and which offers a healthy community of believers to JOIN. Then do it—join the church. Get into fellowship with other believers. It's impossible to live the Christian life apart from the body of believers. Seek out wise and godly counsel from older women. Confess your sins, repent and turn away from them. Seek forgiveness, restoration and renewal.

The only hope you have for a healthy, godly, fruitful marriage is in relationship with a body of believers and, ultimately, in marriage to a Christ-following man.

An old friend of my read the Q&A and emailed to say,

I doubt that this girl will be able to break it off unless the guy dumps her, hurts her feelings terribly (one wonders, what more could he do?), or she falls in love with another man ... and yes, that man could be Jesus.

Amen. That is my prayer.

Hope for Couples Who Are a Little Behind

Big-clockNot everyone who hears the Start Your Family message is encouraged by it. We hear from people who've said we're overlooking a biblical call to be childless for the kingdom (more on that in another post), that we're insensitive to infertile couples and that we offer little hope to those couples who already have waited. That last concern came most recently in an email from Stacy. She wrote,

I just wanted to write and say that I read your blog and feel very discouraged. My husband and I are 33 and 35 and we just now feel as though we want to start a family. God has softened both of our hearts towards children just over the past few months after praying for a heart change. Everything you write in your blog is very true and I would encourage the same mindset to couples in their early twenties but what if, as a couple, we have missed that boat?

We are trying to catch it now but reading the information on your blog was disheartening, not to mention polarizing. Even though I’m sure it wasn’t your intention, it made me feel as though we missed God’s call as a Christian couple to start a family when we first got married (27 and 30). And by your standards we were too slow in tying the knot as well. I really think you are doing a good thing but can the couples who are a little behind not at least get a little blurb on your blog?

This blurb is for Stacy. And all the other couples who (like us) got married a little later.

I'm actually really glad to be able to address your concerns and agree that some posts on this subject would be very helpful. I think it's easy to misread our message, especially if you haven't read the whole book (or know our story). We, too, married at the average age of 27 (just a month before turning 27, to be exact) and didn't start to think about babies till we were 28. We have a lot of encouragement in the book for couples like you who have waited.

We wrote to young couples as well, hoping to spare them the heartache many couples face when they wait, but that wasn't the entire purpose of the book. It's our heart to inspire couples to open their hearts to the possibility of children, to extol God as the wonder-working, all powerful savior who opens wombs and blesses us with children. You have every reason to hope that babies will come and I pray that is the case! I'm just sorry you read our message to be a discouragement.

That's the gist of what I emailed back to Stacy. She's awesome. She wrote back to say,

Thank you so much for writing back. I really didn't expect to get a response! I really do not mean to come across as super critical and will admit that I didn't read every single thing on your blog. I just feel remorse that our desire for children is just now happening, you know? I wish I could go back and put in my 27 year old heart what's in there now. I feel so behind and like if I'm not able to conceive, its because I missed what God's intentions were for us at the get-go. I know that God is sovereign and that if He wants us to have healthy children (even 3 or 4!) that we will but in searching for encouragement in the Christian community, I mostly get dismayed.

If, like Stacy and her husband, you got married later or you just decided you weren't ready to have kids back when you first got married, there's still hope. Lots of it. That's a big part of why we're doing what we do.

Of Carrots, Corn and Cookbooks

My newly-married friend Ashley emailed me yesterday in search of a good carrot raisin recipe. She of the I don't use cookbooks school of cooking was finally convinced that you really can't find everything you need for good cooking for free on the internet. "What's a good all-purpose cookbook?" she wanted to know. Better Homes and Gardens, I said. I've had my copy—a paperback—so long that I honestly can't remember when I got it. Not surprisingly, it's really dog-eared. And since many of the pages have actually fallen out of the book, they're usually out of order. No matter. I know where my favorite recipes are, well enough to find them without page numbers or a complete index. The lemon zest, tomato sauce, and au jus stains don't hurt either.

I wasn't able to help Ashley with a recipe. Carrot raisin has never been among my favorite muffin combos (carrot cake muffins with cream cheese frosting, well now, that's a different story!). But she did get me thinking about baking. So I pulled out a bunch of frozen bananas and whipped up some bread.

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I doubled the recipe so I'd have enough batter for three loaves (two for us and another for a friend whose husband had knee surgery). I use smallish bread pans, so plan on only one loaf if you use a regular sized pan; or 12 muffins if you go that route.

Banana bread with pecans and lemon zest

(an adaptation of a BHG classic)

1&1/2 cups flour (I use white wheat for a heartier, healthier loaf)

1&1/2 tsp baking powder

1/4 tsp baking soda

1/4 tsp cinnamon

pinch of salt (optional)

1 egg

1 cup mashed bananas (about 3 medium)

3/4 cup sugar

1/4 cup oil (I used canola)

1/2 cup chopped pecans (I roast my pecans in a 350 degree oven for 10 min before chopping)

zest of one lemon

(The cookbook labels those last two ingredients "optional," but in my book, they make the bread.) Bake in a 350 degree oven for 50 minutes or till center is set (test with a toothpick or knife). For muffins, bake at 400 degrees for 20 minutes.

And as a footnote to the corn and chili chowder post below, I made it for lunch today and it was even better than I remembered (probably because I used whipping cream this time).

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Kick Off Corn Chowder

Here's a way to kick off the season (not football, Autumn!) and use up all that leftover corn on the cob: Corn and Green Chili Chowder

2 cups corn off the cob (you'll have to cut it off with a sharp knife, carefully)

2 & 1/2 cups chicken broth

3/4 cup whipping cream (Julia would approve)

1 4oz. can diced mild green chilis

1/2 tsp ground cumin

2 Tbsp fresh cilantro

oops, I forgot the salt: salt to taste

Combine all ingredients and simmer over medium low heat for 15 minutes. Puree 2 cups soup (in blender or food processor) till smooth. Return to pot. Stir. Serve hot.

If you like a smoother soup, use a stick blender and puree the whole batch right in the pot. (And if you are hosting the big game, you'll want to triple, or quadruple this recipe.)

When Labor Means Rest and Babies

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I've always thought of Labor Day as the official end of summer and a great reason to have friends over for a cookout. But this year, in addition to all that, as I was trying to explain to Harrison and Zoe the purpose of the holiday (and cutting out leaves for a garland), I was reminded of how blessed we are to live in a land where unions did their best work decades ago, ridding us of child labor and sweatshop working environments.

Not wanting to leave it at that, I read from Dickens' A Christmas Carol (the part of Christmas Present where the ghost lifts his robes to reveal the children want and ignorance). Then we read Matthew 11:28 (I was so glad to have stumbled upon it during my Daily Light reading last week). I had never seen it in the NKJV, till now.

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Unions are a great good when they're focused on eradicating injustice (as opposed to, say, trying to coerce its members to elect this or that politician), but Christ is our greatest good—the only source of true rest.

In other news, Steve and I are on the Family Life Today broadcast again; this time talking about the Start Your Family Book (seems natural to talk babies following labor day). Yesterday we focused on the fears and anxieties that keep many couples (we were no exception) from plunging into parenthood. Today, we talk about the many ways children are a blessing.

Sisters Share in Joys and Challenges of Parenting

Trips to see our families this summer were made sweeter with announcements from Steve's brother and sister-in-law and Candice's sister and brother-in-law that new babies would be arriving next year. Every time this happens, and it's been happening a lot lately, we're reminded of the joys babies bring to extended families. Here to tell us what that looks like from the inside are three sisters: authors and GirlTalk bloggers Janelle, Kristin and Nicole. They discussed our questions along with their husbands (while their kids hunted groundhogs with flashlights nearby.)

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Did you always want to be moms?

Janelle – Yes! From an early age, our mom instilled in us the importance of giving our lives to being wives and mothers. But it was also just a natural desire that I think is innate in every woman. My girlfriends and I played “house” and “mommy” every day. No one had to tell us to do this; we just wanted to!

Kristin – We read in Scripture about the priority of being a wife and mother, but we also saw it lived out by our mom. This created a desire in our hearts to one day emulate her example. Mom also encouraged us to cultivate that desire by babysitting and caring for children; so we babysat a lot as teenagers. That was great preparation for motherhood.

Nicole – I’m so grateful that Mom helped us guard and preserve that godly desire from the worldly, unbiblical message that insisted other pursuits were more significant.

How did your husbands feel about babies early on in your marriages? Were there any hurdles (emotional or practical) you had to clear before starting your families?

Steve – I was always excited about having children: to participate in the transfer of the gospel to the next generation, to grow together as husband and wife, and I liked kids! When we decided to have a baby, it meant Nicole would stay home full-time and we would lose her salary. Given the housing prices in our area, that decision meant we might not ever be able to buy a place of our own. So we were prepared to rent for the rest of our lives, if necessary. The Lord blessed us and we now own a home, together with my parents. But either way, I don’t think we ever would have regretted our decision to go ahead and start a family.

Nicole – Our “hurdles” have come after each child was born. I had a very difficult delivery with Jack, which was followed by several surgeries and then we weren’t able to get pregnant with Tori for a couple of years after that. We were so grateful for the blessing of another child! Then, after Tori was born there were more unexpected physical complications. We are hoping that God will bless us with more children, but the challenges we have faced have given us a greater appreciation for the two wonderful kids God has given to us!

Janelle – we were married for two years before starting our family, so that Mike’s salary would allow me to stay home and have a child. We were having a blast, just the two of us. We could have easily given in to the temptation to just enjoy our fun and comfortable life. Watching my sisters have kids first, I knew something of the realities of motherhood: it requires hard work and sacrifice. Especially with all those crazy boys! But I think a biblical conviction about the importance of family and children created a desire in our hearts to have kids and not wait any longer.

Brian – I was eager to start a family right away. But we moved to Chicago right after we were married. Kristin was so overwhelmed by the changes she was experiencing: new location, new husband, new job, new friends, new everything. We decided we would wait six months before discussing having kids. And then at that time, Kristin got pregnant.

Kristin – After we had our first son, Andrew, we wanted to have more children right away. Nicole and I are fourteen months apart and Brian is only sixteen months younger than his brother. We both had wonderful experiences growing up with a sibling so close to our age and we wanted the same for our children. We had two miscarriages after Andrew but then God blessed us with Liam and Owen followed soon after. I’m so glad we had our boys so close together.

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What's the most annoying toy or children's show/video that parenthood has brought into your life?

Nicole – The Wiggles. Hands down it’s The Wiggles. “Fruit Salad, yummy yummy.” One Christmas Jack received a “Wiggly Guitar,” so even though my kids don’t watch The Wiggles anymore, that toy is still around and will sometimes turn on, seemingly all by itself, and start blasting that annoying music.

Brian – Yep, The Wiggles. “Wake up Jeff! Before the day is through.”

Kristin – “Wake up Jeff, everybody needs you!”

Steve – I think The Wiggles are great. Barney is the one that annoys me.

Janelle – Barney is far more annoying than The Wiggles. The Wiggles just do silly stuff that make kids laugh. Barney is so sappy: “I love you….”

Brian – I think you could say that the effeminate quality of Barney and the high cheese factor of the wiggles make them both very annoying.

What is it like having sisters all having babies in the same season? Is that a plus?

Janelle – Better than I could have imagined. We talk about parenting all the time and are spurred on by one another. The topic just flows in and out of all our conversations. And our kids are best friends. They will have lots of wonderful memories of growing up with each other.

Nicole – I remember babysitting Kristin and Brian’s son Andrew before we had kids and thinking, “wow, he is having so many bad attitudes.” I’ve since apologized to Kristin many times for my arrogance and self-righteousness toward her. You don’t realize how hard parenting is until you do it yourself. So having kids all at the same time keeps us all humble together.

Kristin – I think it has really served to strengthen our relationships as sisters, and with our mom. We have a bond because we are all going through this season together.

What have been your sources for inspiration and encouragement in family making?

Janelle – Dad and Mom have been our greatest inspiration for sure. They made us want to duplicate what they did with us. I’m always telling Mike about things I remember from growing up and how I can’t wait to make the same memories with our girls.

Steve – CJ and Carolyn have made family life so attractive. It’s really fun to be together. As CJ would put it, they’ve sought to establish a “culture of joy” in the family. So we laugh all the time. Being in the Mahaney home is a delightful place to be. They have created a family dynamic so enjoyable to be with that it inspires us to do the same.

Brian – Couples may not necessarily have godly parents to look up to. That’s where godly couples in the local church are God’s provision for wisdom, inspiration, counsel, encouragement and correction in parenting.

Kristin – When we were in Chicago, and didn’t have anybody. Our parents weren’t close by. Although I’d done a lot of babysitting, Brian hadn’t been around a lot of kids. So we looked around our church and picked a family to serve. We chose a couple with four young children. We would go and babysit for them. In doing that we became part of their family. We learned so much from them. We would observe and talk about things we wanted to do with our own kids. It was a great opportunity to learn, to spark conversations as a couple about how we want to shape our future family. It also allowed us to serve this couple and gain some wonderful friends.

Nicole – In addition to our parents and other couples, I think that biblical resources have been an invaluable help in our parenting. We’ve passed books or message recommendations back and forth between us. We talk about them as married couples. There are so many, but Tedd Tripp’s Shepherding a Child’s Heart, Elisabeth Elliot’s Shaping of A Christian Family, JC Ryle’s Duties of Parents, and Ginger Plowman’s Don’t Make Me Count to Three are just a few of our favorites.

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How has God revealed himself to you through your children?

Brian – I’ve seen God’s creativity and variety in the kids He gives you. Each one is unique. Each has his own gifts, his own strengths, his own weaknesses. Each child reflects God’s varied grace in creation.

Kristin – I think also the patience and forbearance that God shows us as our Father is the same patience and forbearance we have to show our children.

Mike – I think I’ve gotten a new perspective on receiving the discipline of the Lord as His love for me and not just as a consequence for my sin.

Nicole – Parenting helps you realize your utter inadequacy. I can’t change my children. I can’t save their souls. I need God’s grace to work in their lives. It doesn’t negate my responsibility as a parent. But God’s grace is the only thing that makes any of my efforts effective.

What surprised you most about becoming parents?

Nicole – Even though Mom told us that motherhood was exhausting and delightful, even though she taught us all the practical things we needed to know, even thought we had lots of experiencing babysitting – I don’t think anyone can fully prepare you.

Kristin – The amount of self-denial and selflessness that I experienced with having three kids, three and under, was more than I expected.

Mike – How selfish I still was. Also the joy that a child brings you. She turns to you and says "I love you daddy" and gives you a huge kiss and hug — this couldn’t be any better.

Steve – The “daddy’s home” moment. I’ve been surprised at how much delight I’ve found in my children. Not realizing that the capacity for that much love for them was there prior to having them.

How has having children affected your marriages?

Brian – It’s so easy to let the issues of discipline and training take up the entirety of conversation. We’ve needed to learn to protect our cultivation of romance, intimacy, conversation, etc.

Kristin – We’ve found that with secondary issues in particular – approach to schooling, media, methods of discipleship, etc. – it’s challenged us to communicate, pursue fellowship and wisdom from others, and pursue unity in our convictions and approach to parenting.

Nicole –It’s such a wonderful thing to parent together with your best friend. Going through the challenges of secondary infertility and physical trials, as well as sharing the moments of indescribable joy of giving birth and then enjoying our children day by day, this has strengthened our marriage relationship in so many ways. I love that I get to do this parenting thing with Steve.

Steve – parenting has brought us joy and delight in one another that we maybe didn’t recognize or have before.

Mike – I felt like we went from every day being a “date day” to days filled with the constant responsibility of children. This has required us to work to make time together the priority that it needs to be. Children have also added another dimension of joy to our marriage.

How has it affected your relationships with your own parents?

Janelle – There is an aspect of joy, to be able share in the joy of them of them becoming grandparents.

Kristin – You realize the vast wisdom your parents have because there are so many questions you realize you never knew you had. Like how do you get a child to sleep through the night? What do you do when they throw a fit in the middle of the grocery store? You don’t realize the wisdom, the experience, the knowledge that it takes to parent until you are a parent.

Steve – It has made me much more grateful as I’ve realized their patience and generosity and kindness toward me all these years.

When do you make time to blog? (seeing as it's a family affair, do your kids read it?)

Nicole – We write posts early in the morning or over naps, mostly. Blogging is nice because it fits into our schedule and we can put our families first. But there are certainly days that are tough. Some times we settle for putting up a simple link or a post that needs a little more editing. That’s fine with us, though, because we don’t want to compromise the importance of our role as wives and mothers, so we just do what we can on the blog and pray it serves.

Kristin – My boys like to pull up the Friday Funnies – they especially like the ones with videos. But their all-time favorite post wasn’t a funny. It was the video of the young man with no arms and legs. They watched that over and over, maybe 50 times. I think they were very affected by his heart for God.

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Nicole Whitacre is the wife of Steve Whitacre who serves as the youth pastor at Sovereign Grace Church in Fairfax, VA. Their two curly-headed cuties are Jack (six) and Tori (two). Nicole is the co-author of Girl Talk: Mother-Daughter Conversations on Biblical Womanhood with her mom, Carolyn Mahaney, and Shopping for Time with her mom and sisters. She also co-writes for the girltalk blog.

Kristin Chesemore is married to Brian Chesemore who serves as one of the Married Life pastors at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg MD. They have three boys: Andrew (nine), Liam (six) and Owen (five). She is co-writer of the girltalk blog and the book Shopping For Time with the other girltalkers.

Janelle Bradshaw is the wife of Mike Bradshaw who is the pastor of Children’s Ministry at Covenant Life Church. They have been blessed with two daughters: Caly (three) and MJ (one). Janelle is the girltalk blog photographer and co-author. She also co-wrote Shopping for Time with her mom and sisters.

Ignore Conventional Wisdom

Suzanne Hadley is a fellow blogger and friend who recently got engaged. And just under three months after Kevin popped the question, they're getting married! And he's younger than she is. She's told her story before—and I love her story because it's so encouraging to 30-plus single, never-married women. But her article on Boundless yesterday takes the cake! Talk about category busting. She's giving away secrets here, ladies. And exploding myths. In "I Kept Looking" she bemoans four in particular:

  1. God will give you a husband when you stop looking for one.
  2. He'll only bring him to you when you're ready.
  3. The best marriages begin when you're in your early 20s.
  4. If you're not married, it's because something's wrong with you.

To these she says,

  1. "I was looking"
  2. "I wasn't ready"
  3. "I waited until I was past my prime"
  4. "I let myself go."

She explains, "there are several pieces of relationship lore that I ignored, either on purpose or inadvertently in my journey to finding my fiancé, Kevin." For example,

I thought, you "quit looking" and a man perfect for you materializes out of thin air. It didn't totally make sense to me, but this wasn't the first time I'd heard this kind of argument. As if the act of "forgetting" that you want to be married and have a family will cause God to push some Willy Wonka-esque button that produces the golden egg: a husband.

Regarding her looks, she says,

I didn't stop trying; I just stopped obsessing. I continued to wear my hair in a flattering style. I took up running for exercise. I focused on good skincare. But I also accepted my average, not-skinny weight and imperfect skin, and quit comparing myself (as much) to other girls. Accepting my outward appearance gave my inner beauty a chance to shine more brightly. When I walked into Kevin's Starbucks that day, he says he was wowed by my confidence and smile.

The key to her article, and her story, though, isn't that she merely chucked conventional wisdom out the window. She replaced it with biblical wisdom instead. Don't miss this! She says,

I am proof you can mess up the formula and still get the guy. I was looking, I wasn't ready, I was past my prime and I had let myself go. Four seeming no-no's. But there was something else going on. To the best of my ability, I was being faithful. Despite the disappointment of still being single past 30, I tried each day to be worthy of the calling I had received (Eph. 4:1) by taking the opportunities God placed in my path.

Everyone has a calling. And being faithful to the One who has called you is the absolute best way to have a fulfilling, hope-filled life. Faithfulness leads you to the places God wants you to go, including those places where you might bump into someone who's headed the same direction. That's why it's wise to keep looking.

What worldly advice have you displaced with God's Word?

The Pros and Cons of Friendship

Friendship is a good starting point for a great marriage. Friendship can be the very thing that keeps you from marriage. Surprisingly, both of those statements are true. Or can be. The challenge with male friends is knowing which sort of friendship you're in.

Recently I answered a question from a woman who was frustrated that her male friendships hadn't led to something more and that her emotions were keeping her from be happy with "just friends" when she really wanted more.

Friendship is great. It can be a strong foundation for a romantic relationship. I even talk in Get Married about how women often overlook men in the "just friends" category as potential husbands. But if a friendship has stopped progressing from "just friends" to something more—especially if that male friend has come right out and said he does not want anything more (read: romantic)—then at that point, the friendship can go from promising to poisoning.

What does it poison? Opportunities for marriage to someone else.

How can you know if your friendship is full of potential or potentially poisoning? For starters, check out this handy DTR (define the relationship) assessment from Boundless. It's free and takes just a few minutes. You can also read the rest of my answer to the friends question in "The Poison in Just Friends."

What's your experience with guy friendships? Do you have a promising outcome? We'd love to hear about it!

When Disobedience Equals Honor

When I was growing up, my parents were pretty strict. I was OK with their rules most of the time and didn't feel the need to rebel against them, but it wasn't until after I grew up and left their home that I realized how much their boundaries protected me. I thank God that He, too, placed high boundaries around me. Most notably, my nearly complete lack of boyfriend activity prior to meeting Steve. I wasn't nearly as OK with His limits in the moment. They just made me feel left out and weird. I spent a lot of time praying that he'd bring a man into my life. And I was frustrated a lot during the waiting. But looking back, I see that the unanswered prayers were, like my parents' rules, a merciful protection from harm.

BA_largeGiven my history, it's hard for me to imagine having parents who encourage you to sin. But this week's Boundless Answers column is in response to a woman who is living with her fiance because her parents want her to. And they think marriage should be postponed not only until after she finishes school, but preferably, till she's 30. Living with her fiance now, they reason, is good practice for marriage and insurance against divorce.

She wrote,

They are adamant that we live together, so we can see if we're compatible before marriage. You can probably see where this is going. We've fallen into sexual sin several times.

How can we convince my parents that it is a good idea for us to marry now? I can't think of any reasons they'd agree with, as they don't see any problems with premarital sex. It's really important to us that my parents are happy, and I don't want to dishonor them by going against their wishes. We really want to honor God, and honor my parents, but I just think two years is too long, and I'm worried we may sin again. Any ideas?

She's made of stronger stuff than I am. I know I would have fallen many, many times under those circumstances. I replied,

It sounds like your parents want you to have a meaningful relationship. And they're encouraging you to do what the conventional wisdom says is a wise path to marriage: test the relationship by living together. They're also against early marriage, again going with the current trend to delay marriage because it seems that later marriages are more likely to be satisfying and less likely to end in divorce.

But their good intentions aren't enough. Their worldly wisdom is clashing with your conscience. Because you know Jesus, and presumably are studying Scripture — His revealed will for our lives — you know your highest authority isn't them, but God, and God has revealed a plan for relationships, sex and marriage that's opposite of what they're asking you to do. This makes for a lot of gut-wrenching angst.

So what should you do?

To find out, read "Disobeying Your Parents."

Be Open to Opportunities

Yesterday, I mentioned the role books played in my romance with Steve. When he started talking books the first time we met, I was smitten. I love to read (mostly non-fiction), and meeting a man with a shared passion was thrilling. (Some of you may be wondering how anyone could use the words "passion," "books," and "thrilling" in the same sentence!) Thankfully, not everyone has to find books thrilling. Wordless book braceletThat initial spark can be well, sparked, by all sorts of things. In the case of Kevin and Suzanne (our friends who came over last night for coffee), it was a wrist-encircling strip of leather with a few colored beads. I met Suzanne back in 2004 when I was editing Boundless. She submitted an article about surviving Christmas without the release of a new Lord of the Rings movie and when I finally got around to reading it (months after she sent it in), I liked it so much, I published it a few days later—evidence that letting email pile up unread can lead to missed opportunities!

Fast forward five years and forty-plus articles and you'll find Suzanne still writing for Boundless and helping single women have hope that God really is still in the business of making good matches. Talking with Suzanne and Kevin last night, I was reminded of God's creativity in forming new families. Their story is an encouragement to look with fresh eyes at opportunities you're tempted to write off— opportunities you may miss if you're not paying attention.

In the "Live Like You're Planning to Marry" chapter I write,

Steve looked different than the man I imagined I'd marry. When I first saw him I thought he was nice looking, but what really captured me was him. His intersts, his calling, his passion, his humor. All of him. And as we grew in friendship, I grew more attracted to his looks. (I know he'd say the same about me.)

Instead of asking, To whom as I attracted? start asking, Of my male friends, who would be a godly husband, strong partner, and good father? Thinking of men this way, yo might be surprised who captures your heart. Attraction isn't static. A man whose looks initially don't catch your eye may become a visual feast once you get to know his heart, his character, his personality. A face is just wrapping paper. You'd be a fool on Christmas day to discard gifts that had too much tape or reused bows, before you even looked to see what was inside. Sometimes the tackiest wrapping covers the best gift.

How We Met

I love hearing stories of how couples met. Whenever Steve and I host dinner parties, the question, "how did you meet?" is a staple for getting the conversation started.The answers, as varied as fingerprints, show God's creativity in bringing men and women together for marriage. Those stories renew my hope every time. God is the ultimate creative spirit; with the resources of the universe at His disposal. If ever there were a skilled matchmaker, HE IS IT!

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Yesterday, as I posted an interview with Phil and Heather Joel, I was remembering their "how we met story." Phil was touring with the Newsboys and during one interview with a radio station in Kansas, he was told "there are only three mics in the studio." Since there were three Newsboys and one host, someone had to bow out. Phil did. It had everything to do with the cute receptionist out in the lobby.

Fast forward a bit and Phil is back on the road, a baggie of quarters in hand. This was pre-cell phones, people! He used the coins for payphone calls (do they even have those anymore?) to Heather. It's a great story. You can listen to the whole thing on the Boundless Show.

If you've read Get Married, you know how we met. It all started with a book. The first time Steve and I were introduced, the subject of books came up. In the course of conversation Steve mentioned he was reading Microserfs. As soon as I could—later that same day—I went and bought that book. I figured it was guaranteed conversation the next time we talked,

And we're still talking and reading books 14 years later.

We'll be asking the "how did you two meet?" question again tonight when Suzanne Hadley and her fiance Kevin come over for dessert. I'm intrigued by their story (older woman meets younger man at Starbucks) and eager to share more of it with you. Till then, you can read "A Year to Love" and be inspired by ongoing evidence of God's intimate involvement in "how we met."

Without God, We're Done For

It's one thing for us to talk about cutting excess from our schedules so we have more time with our kids. Trade out TV for reading time. Spend less time online in exchange for time at the park. You know, the usual time wasters. But when Newsboy-rock-and-roller Phil Joel, and his TV-personality-wife Heather, say it, it takes on a whole new level of seriousness. Phil and Heather have given up what most of us would only dream of having. Why? So they can spend more time at home with their kids. Recently we caught up with them to ask what you're probably thinking: Are you kidding me?

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Did you always want kids? What kinds of thoughts did you have about children and family when you first got married?

We always knew we wanted to have kids one day!

What prompted you to start your family?

Heather: By the time we got pregnant, we’d been married five years. We’d had an amazing ride up to that point with it just being the two of us, but we both began to get that feeling that someone was missing. We prayed about it and felt a real excitement and peace.

What emotional or practical hurdles did you have to overcome in order to start your family?

Phil: It took us a little while to settle down and get certain things out of our systems—well, mainly Heather’s system. She was hosting a TV show for Country Music Television (CMT) up until the time she got pregnant and she really loved her job. She had to travel quite a bit and knew she didn’t want to keep up that kind of pace once we had children. We knew we wanted to be fully focused on parenting when we started into that season of our lives, so it was a bit of a mental transition out of the mindset of television and road tripping to the great and awesome job of being a momma.

How are you building such a vibrant and strong family; where do you go for advice and encouragement?

Heather: Our main strategy for our family is keeping it simple. We try not to allow our lives to get cluttered up with bunches of activities and stuff. Family dinners around the table, lots of reading, bike rides, talking and taking lots of time to “stop and smell the roses” are what we fill up our time with. We once heard the challenge “are you going to be a media-centered family or a relationship-centered family”? That question really impacted our thinking—we now use that as the measuring stick for the things we do.

We are big on finding great ideas and resources—anything we can get our hands on that we can enjoy together. We’re always on the look out for new things—we’re resource junkies!

Phil: Our best resource ever ... Heather has been blessed with the greatest mom on earth! She is the best sounding board, advice giver, encourager, truth speaker and is always there with a listening ear. We are so blessed to have her!

How has God revealed himself to you through your children?

The parent/child relationship is such a fascinating parallel to a person’s relationship with God the Father. God has given us that dynamic as an awesome picture of how He loves us completely and unconditionally while at the same time shaping, teaching, training, and growing us into the people He created us to be. We will always be children under His care no matter how old we are!

What surprised you most about becoming parents?

Heather: Over and over people would always say, ”make sure you get your sleep before the new baby comes” ... we’d think, “okay, okay ... we know.” Well apparently we were totally unable to prepare for our newfound lack of sleep. We had no idea how close to “insane zombie” you feel in the first few weeks with a newborn. It’s like your mind gets frozen and you walk around in a fog.

What's the most annoying toy or children's show/video that parenthood has brought into your life?

Heather: When any one theme can be found on pencils, vitamins, hair clips, toothbrushes, socks, underwear, gum, light switches, drinking cups, backpacks, tennis shoes, juice boxes, etc., it feels like somebody is set on extracting every last dollar from people’s wallets. Over-branding is a big turn off!

How has having children affected your marriage?

Phil: It’s made Heather and me really come together in a new way as a team. We are always talking through things relating to the kids as individuals as well as the way we are doing “family” as a whole.

How has it affected your career(s)?

Phil: Well, it’s led to quite a significant change for us. Two-and-a-half years ago, Heather and I decided that it was time for me to finish up my time with Newsboys (the band I’d been in for 12&1/2 years). We were on the road quite a bit and we realized that this kind of pace wouldn’t be healthy for us as a family long term. At the same time the Lord had really been putting this deliberatePeople ministry/message/music on my heart.

Heather and I knew that in life, seasons change and having a family really re-sets the playing field. We knew that if we wanted our family to thrive, we needed to make some significant changes regarding my job. I still get to do music and play shows, but my schedule is much more open. I get tons of time at home with Heather and the kids and I get to really focus on the things that God is putting on our hearts to share.

Phil, when do you find time to write music and record as a dad?

I am really blessed to be able to work out of my home studio in the back yard—it’s an old carriage house that we converted into a studio. I keep regular work hours writing and recording. I have an “open door” policy with friends and family—the kids (and friends) are always popping in for visits. It’s a huge blessing!

A friend of ours describes the family as a "domestic church." What's life like in your "domestic church"?

Phil: We know that the key element in our family is my walk with the Lord and Heather’s walk with Him. If we are to be the godly leaders in our home and shepherds of our children’s hearts, we have got to be seeking Him, knowing Him, and looking toward Him as our provider. If we try and take on the huge task of raising our family in this culture on our own, we are done for. As we are pursuing the Lord each day and relying on His strength, vision and strategies, we can be confident that He will lead us and show us the things we need to know in order to lead and grow up our family.

It starts with us and the Lord individually, and from there it directly impacts our marriage and then the way we raise our children.

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Before launching deliberatePeople. in 2005, Phil Joel was bassist and support vocalist for the Newsboys. He and his wife Heather, former host of CMT's All Access and Hit Trip, have two children, Phynley (8) and Eden (5).

The Joels realized how having a deliberate encounter with God everyday was the key to greater intimacy with Him and how this lifestyle would revolutionize peoples’ lives.

Learn more about their ministry and music at deliberatePeople.com

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(Note: You can hear Phil and Heather tell more of their story on the Boundless Show.)